AI Dungeon Features
I think I will definitely make 100 click troughs in a week. 100*4 =400/month
Heck I'd even go so far as to say "remove ads" could be a premium option. Please do it the sane way though, and have them pop down from the top, not near the bottom where all the clicking is. Clicks gained that way are always kinda scummy, and really don't sit well with players, nor do they help the ad providers since generally, you didn't mean to click the ad, and going in you'd have a negative impression on whatever they're trying to show you.
This suggestion is not about aggressive popup ads. Its about an option.
Why dont you just slap some large "Support the developers" Button somewhere in settings and be done with it. The thought of ads make me cringe, sorry dud.
Not cringe. The devs don't have enough money bro. Asking for money is not cringe. Stealing money via aggressive ads, is cringe and annoying.There's a site for supporting the devs, but as I wrote: " just make an options for those how want to support but don't have money or credit card."Not everyone has a credit card. Or money...
Ngl i would uninstall the game if there were ads they already have a patron
Yeah, they have a patreon page but: "just make an options for those how want to support but don't have money or credit card."Not everyone has a credit card. Or money..."And As I said: "This suggestion is not about aggressive popup ads. Its about an option."
My thoughts are along the lines of having a thing in the sidebar where you can watch ads, and every time you watch an ad you earn "Points". These "points" can be used to earn temporary access to things the premium users have. Like, one 30 second ad is 3 retry commands. Not an intrusive ad, but one that you opt into.
I honestly like"clear as dae's" opinion on the matter tho id think that its better to just have the "support us option in the menu. And to add to the previous gelreat idea you could make it so that there are ranks on the ads so that the ads are ranked with tge shorter ones giving say one point and longer ones giving more points as you go. Also you could make it so that you have like a store where you could use those points to "purcase a finite amount of say "retry commands".I hope thus helped.
I agree with totaly random human agreeing with clear as dae, this sounds exactly like what I want.
I agree with random's elaboration but I feel like maybe you could add a "1 month premium" option to the ad store for a high price (like maybe 10 hrs of ads on average?)
There's already premium + patreon to support the game, I pay $20 patreon and $4.99 premium and would not enjoy ads, plus don't think the people I've invited to the game would be very privy to ads.
Only problem with ads: the ads suck. They are very short, so when they end, we forget that they suck and start putting it on the game. So far, it’s true.
I support this idea, though it should be optional of course. Removing ads shouldn't be a premium-only feature I think. I have premium but I wouldn't mind having it on if it's just, like, a sidebar thing on browser.
"Put ads on the site" (suggested by King Friendly on 2020-06-27), including upvotes (2) and comments (2), was merged into this suggestion.
Banner ads would be fine, but if I get so much as one (1) popup, or a single banner ad with audio, I'd turn my adblocker back on in a heartbeat.
Basically there will be coins which you can obtain by watching ads. Then you can buy 1 month premium with those coins. This way devs gets supported and f2p players can benefit premium too. Everyone will be happy.
I'd support this, as increasing accessibility is always nice, but I feel like adding any type of currency could be a slippery slope. I'm not saying for sure it'll happen, but it all too often leads to the devs thinking up other uses for the coins, and not ones that increase accessibility. Stuff that would be free might instead cost coins, and things that would be unlimited, at least for Premium, might gain a cost per use.But it does give me confidence to see them make formerly-paid stuff free.
Oh dear, I really hope this never appears. I don't mind the suggested use here, but the taint of the coin is just so, so huge.I don't mean that in the sense of slippery slope, but in the sense on many that interact with an UI that has the F2P coin stuff will consider this to be the same crap, without looking deeper. Others might not care, some might be even attracted by the familiarity.You want the first kind of users in your community. If you end up doing this, present them differently.
well I don't know, I'd like for Ai dungeon to be ad free.
Yeah, maybe you could enable ads, and then if you play enough in a month, since you saw a lot of ads, you would get free premium because you paid off the premium in ads?
It would still reamin ad-free for premium users that are able and willing to put in the cash. For those wanting an ad-free and cost-free service, I believe they are able to clone the project from github and run it locally if they have the necessary hardware.
Optional ads would allow the few currently-premium features to eventually become free. If there was a sustainable alternative way for the developers to make money, then eventually even the Dragon model could become free.
So this would help the application.
Optional ads are non-invasive, and cost nothing but time for users to watch. If I watched 10 ads completely by choice, that would equal (I think) $7.50, almost the cost of the premium. And it's a free way for users to support the application, without any money coming from themselves.
Okay, its okay. But don't make it aggresive
(i hope this not happened) :(
Only if it (ad implementation) is optional.Oftentimes I just want to play a fun game that doesn't harass me with ads. AI Dungeon is the only game I have that gives me that solace. But when I'm not stressed, it'd be cool to be able to switch on ads to support the awesome devs. I really love AI Dungeon and having the OPTION to help them even when I am a broke college student would make me so happy.
Even as a premium user, I'd love a switch to be able to toggle ads on - as long as they're unintrusive I'm all for it to help the devs keep the service running.
I think it would be better if the ads would be placed somewhere on the screen, but not among, above or below the text. And that they would not hamper, impede or obstruct the player from playing the game. Invasive or obscuring ads can annoy a person to stop even playing or supporting the game, and that would decrease the support of the game itself, since it would become 'just another ads filled Text Based Adventure game'...
Maybe make it free version only, while the premium version would not have the ads, since they already support the game by paying monthly?Or make different tiers of premium? Like ads free version, then the actual premium and then the premium+?
No. Just no. Currency just doesn't fit into this sort of game. There's two types of games: games with subscriptions and games with paid currency. It's a terrible idea to mix those things together. If we were to use a currency, premium would go away and it would be a coin per Dragon output.Sorry to disagree with you if you really are Keith; I'm a huge fan. But this one is likely never going to happen. That being said, I don't have the authority on that. We'll have to see what the devs think.
Maybe a charge bar, but not coins.
Maybe you could put it into explore? I would prefer if the main game elements were clean. On phones, there is little space already for seeing the older text while the keyboard is pulled up. I turned off tips just to get a little more space. I would be fine with a support with an ad option. Just please avoid making it a forced thing.
That, I agree with what 75897 says above me.
"clear as dae"s idea sounds great! Watching a certain number of ads to unlock a week of narrator or something like that would be really neat!
Honestly watching 15 adds consecutively for a week of the dragon ai would be very nice 0.0 I am personally apposed to subscriptions (I understand they set a monthly idea of cash flow) but I would definitely support a system to watch X amount of ads to equal $10 for a month of premium.. which is applicable with accounts. Which would not be intrusive and who wouldn't watch 15-20 adds for a full month of dragon ai without intrusive, invasive adds does that sound like a good enough solution?
Considering that clicks on ads are what earn money (and clickthroughs), supporting the game would be very simple. I could open up another tab, watch ads on it, and support the developers. If it is an option in the side bar, then I will be clicking it. It is a free option to support the developers.
And letting people know that it is a free option to support the developers, they would probably be enthusiastic about clicking on it too.
Improving the Idea, Instead of having those annoying Ads, There would be a tab where we can "Buy" coins, if we want coins, we would watch ads inside that tab, and receive these coins, But not only ads, Things that can improve development, like research on AI Dungeon, a tool that needs help from users to get better, and obviously opinions, everything would be rewarded with coins
Definitely!I would rather watch 10 ads per run instead of paying 10 dollars and probably devs will profit more than premium subscription.100 active users per day = 1000 impressions per day = $1per day it makes $30 dolar per month which i think there is more than just 100 users playing ai dungeon in one day and they can just remove ads by paying 10$ per month whenever they want.
"One Dragon AI run in exchange of Ads." (suggested by ytaxi44 on 2020-08-14), including upvotes (20) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.
Please make sure if this is added that those of us who are premium members get an ad-free experience.
"Watch ads to temporarily unlock features" (suggested by The_Earliholic on 2020-08-17), including upvotes (5) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
I'm totally against ads personally. You don't have money? Mow a single neighbors lawn for 20 bucks, boom 2 months of premium for a few hours of constructive work.Heck, you could sell lemonade on the street corner for a day and afford it...There are loads of ways for an honest kid to come up with 10$. If your an adult? Well stop being a freeloader, lol.Advertisers have already torn apart YouTube. You want to invite that into AID? Get ready for some heavy censoring.
Well, not everbody is able to so such things by default. And corna made things worse. Don't just thing about ur country. Think globally, think about poor nations too!
Deleted last two messages. Political discussions will long term lead nowhere but unproductive discussion.
I like to support the team with the ads idea but i think it will turn off some players
As long as the ads are behind 2 buttons, with one opening a prompt to confirm if the user wants to watch an ad, and the other one, on the prompt, actually leading to the ad), I’ll gladly see this happen.
No. I see a lot of comments about how much money the devs would make, not taking into account that ads don't actually bring in much revenue per viewer. The critical mass just isn't there right now.Adding in-app purchases i.e. coins is a dangerous idea. It could work, or it could backfire horribly and turn the game we all love into a loot-box fiasco.
I think it's a good idea to have ads, provided that they aren't intrusive, and by not intrusive I mean:* Don't have popup ads or constant banner ads* Don't pester the user about adsOne interesting concept could be rewarding those who watch ads with a support coin (with a coin being half the value of one ad watch in relation to the cost of 1 day premium) and allow players who have accumulated enough support coins to spend them to get a day of premium.
"Premium features for free with advertisements" (suggested by D S on 2020-09-22), including upvotes (2) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
I know that the devs aren't gonna make money with free Premium but I know another way...
M A K E A D S...or maybe merchs
I know its a bit... unprofitable but you can always allow more ads in.
btw I thought to myself that if I bought the Premium, I would easily regret it cuz 9$ a month?! and only the dragon model and some other low features. I would EASILY CANCEL IT and the devs won't have money
BUT IF THEY HAD ADS
they get money almost every day
Think about it... maybe 10000 players playing Ai dungeon and they see ads the devs would make more money than premium. PLS ADD THIS
P.S pls don't make to much ads maybe just after of before the game.
this would be coooooll
Doesn't seem all too different to (https://aidungeon.featureupvote.com/suggestions/108104/buying-premium-from-ads)
To be profitable with everyone using dragon using only ads, the ads would basically be everywhere always. Dragon is really expensive.
but maybe they can just add ads on the side, but this guy's right, A person will get used to the Dragon model after a while you know, nothing lasts forever. The person would cancel it, and no money... but with ads they are unlimited.
This can be profitable AID has a lot of players, it can make money so fast But don't make to many of them maybe in the sides.
...If they stopped using it then ads wouldn't make money.
10000 installs would be enough for maybe 1 premium? Maybe 2 if you will you have to click on ad after every submissions and both OpenAI and Google would be generous.
@E has a point, ads simply aren't as good at making money as people think.
You'd have to watch a tons of ads to make it worth premium sub... Ads don't pay well nowadays.
We may or may not be getting something similar to this eventually, but it won't have anything to do with ads. More like daily rewards. But that's far in the future at the moment as the developers are having issues with income, and providing these currencies for free is out of the question for now.
Perhaps put the ad space on the Settings page or About page along with a short message or something. Since most of us would click it to show support regardless of the ad content or placement anyway.
I agree a add feature would be a great income source.I would watch an add every now and again. I currently have a lot of free time I like the game but money is tight.so I can't give it away. besides I have never given any money through paetrion I wouldn't even know if I was in a scam room giving my credit card to a stranger.I believe a add button would be good for people like me and children who can't give money.
Make a button not side banner ads they are annoying and people may not want to see ads during they're epic fights or the death of a friend.A button would make everyone happy.
"Add the possibility in the options to click on ads to support developers." (suggested by Fatloath on 2020-10-26), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
Indeed. And the person who would try doing this and liked the premium version will be more likely to pay for the monthly subscription. It only has advantages, but it has to be optional. I love AI Dungeon because of too much things, and one of them is because it's free of ads. Another thing that would be cool is: "Contribution Points." You win overtime playing and you can change them for specific traits of the premium subscription, for example: I've been playing for weeks, and I have contributions points to change for "Status". The reason of that is because of the quantity of words and stories you've been writing and creating, improving the AI's knowledge and creativity.
I personally am always happy to watch some ads to support the games I like, and as someone broke who really likes playing for a long period of time once a week and not for short periods of time every day, I would definitely be watching ads to get some more play time, no matter how many I'll need to watch to actually fill the bar back up.
I 100% agree with this. Ads suck, but it at least gives another option over wait or pay. Plus the ads gain money for the devs as well. I use the retry button so much that I would only get 4 turns max out of the energy bar. I'm so persistent on things being perfect. That bar is really going to hinder my experience and gameplay. And I don't have money to fling around at apps. As much as I like AI Dungeon I just don't have the money to spend on it. This has been something I use to relieve stress, get over writers block, and create alternative endings to stories. While I understand this isn't an easy app to run, I still feel as if the energy bar feature would draw me away from the app despite the benefits it has on me. With ads it's a short, easy way for me to keep going, so I'm not stuck in that writers block for even longer.
Ads would make so little money that its not worth implementing them.
I agree. I do a thing where I refresh with the button to tell the AI "bad", but go back a turn then press enter if the AI was on the right track. It'd be good to find something for players who do long and sparse bursts of play that are broke or unable to pay, whether it be ads or other systems.
Looks like they are not doing this.
"Use advertisement like any other F2P game" (suggested by Kenshinzen on 2020-11-07), including upvotes (6) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
"Ads make so little money, that basically every free thing in the world, manages to make money from them!" (Presented by Carl's Junior!)
Most things are basically free to run meaning all ad revenue is profit. Ads for AID would not significantly offset current costs and would drive away a large portion of the player base.
Watching ads would be a better solution then waiting for the energy bar. We could watch ads so we can us the more powerful AI for a limited time for people who not paying the premium like me. So we can still play for the stronger AI for like 1 hour for 20 ads.
how is ads not a stable income? its basic economy, if you attracte more peoples, the more companies will pay you to promote there products! you can choose:1) kill your game by ruining the game2) do a marketing campain to attracte more players and keep the game free
I get why ads will give you less profit, but having players pay to play just isn't the solution. Limiting the actions is a problem for people who use it for getting over writer's block, or perfectionists that always refresh the output (both of them are me btw). If not the ads, you need to find a different way of earning money, because this decision will just drive people away from the game.
Ok I just read the update and it's much better now so nvm :)
@yadadadada the problem is that currently more players means more loss since their average profit from players is lower than their average cost
Bruh ill straight up watch 10 ads in a row for a day of premium
"Most things are basically free to run"You know, like Twitch. Hosting like 5 billion streamers and getting their streams out into the world obviously costs nothing, duh!
Let say each ads you watch you get 3 cents if we watch 34 ads you will get 1 dollar and 2 cents but everyone who don't have premiums but would like to play with the stronger AI for limited time. Can watch amount of ads to play it. So let say you need to watch 20 ads and 100 people want to use the stronger AI you will get 60 dollars or 34 ads and each ads is 3 cents and 100 people did it you will get 102 dollars each time their time run out which could be 30 minutes or 1 hour of the stronger AI.
I might have missed something, but from what I saw there are only 15 profile pictures options, including the default. I'm someone who can't afford buying a subscription to support the game, and I like supporting devs using ads.
You can add that each time someone watches a video, a new random profile picture is added as an option for you to select. I'd love to use it personally.
twitch receives 15 million daily users so of course its costs are high, but AI Dungeon's cost per user is much much higher than twitches.
What if this is the only ad?https://drive.google.com/file/d/13wCSLI7y82VZzD8EHj5G82CWJAF66nqF/view?usp=sharing
You are seriously overestimating how much ads 'pay'. That '20 ads watched' would pay for single action, not an hour.
so try to cut the costs
CubicPulsar, believe it or not but I've seen worse.
I would love to see this I would mind watching ads to get dragon model for a week or a month.
For scale, you would have to watch more than 2 hours of ads to get premium for a month.
I mean that’s not bad
Compared with good ads I watch that is really not bad
"For scale, you would have to watch more than 2 hours of ads to get premium for a month." - @DevonSo how many ads would we have to watch to get premium for only one day? It wouldn't be much, right? Maybe it could work
I say about 40 or 4 minutes
Also I said more than... and that's even assuming advertisers would be willing to monetize AID given some of the content.
non-invasive banner ads in a few places. shouldn't be too hard. for the mobile version at least.
As someone who lives off ad revenue, I have to get 5,000,000 views a month on my content to pay BASIC expenses... Ads do not pay nearly as much as you think they do, and tons of people use adblock which is getting harder and harder to detect. OpenAI charges way too much for ads to be used for profit.
Instead of on-screen ads, what about... contextual in-story ads - or like if companies could make their own texts to feed to train the AI where they pay based on how much text they give.Example:> You go get something to eat.You open your brand new LG SIGNATURE 23 cu. ft. Smart Wi-Fi Enabled InstaView™ Door-in-Door® Counter-Depth Refrigerator, and upon seeing the large cardboard pizza box you saved from last night, you take it out. You open the pizza box to reveal the delicious, golden-brown crust surrounding the topping-packed center of your Philly Cheese Steak pizza that you ordered last night as part of their new specialty pizza.jk... I think
Despite the fact that I have Adblock, I am fully willing to turn off my AdBlock every time I access AiDungeon. Mark my words, if ads have to be added for the sake of energy meter being removed, so be it. Nothing's more annoying than a game asking you to buy more time when playing, especially when you were really getting into it.
I get what they mean by the ads, I probably know how to do this.1. Advertise your game a bit to get a few more people or even thousands of more people like the dumb .io games.2. Instead of paywalling or waiting, than add the ad system. And maybe it could recharge .05 (2.5) or just fully, a 1. Now, you could add a limit to the advertisements, but atleast over 10 or 15. 4,5 or even just 3, would probably make people mad, becausePeople like me dont have friends that roleplay, or such so I come to game.
"For scale, you would have to watch more than 2 hours of ads to get premium for a month." @DevonSo? How much exactly we will have to watch to get premium for a day, week or a moth? I seriously think that ads can be good option in this situation.I can only guess but i think that many users would like to watch few hours of ads to get premium for a month or week.
I think that @Not_a_Thief is right. I'm sure that lot of users would gladly accept ads only to get rid of energy meter. Seriously i think that ads on page (how long they not interrupt the game) are ok it's nice way to gather founds for keeping game alive. If i may say, i think it could interesting to give possibility to pay for basic premium stuff by watching few hours of ads one by one. Seriously i don't think it would be a problem to watch i don't know around 8 hours of ads only to get no limits on game i don't even talk about lector or monthly scales. Just simple unlimited possibility to enjoy the game without energy bar. I'm not sure but i think that few hours of ads are enough to get a month of unlimited fun with Aidungeon.
Devs if you do this it may help you out more than energy bar NO ONE LIKES IT. So for the ads every time you load or make a scenario or adventure you must watch one ad. And for the donations you can put it any where you.
You have donations - you can think about buying dragon scales as donations. Besides, You would have to watch too many ads to get even action - AI is really expensive. Either play less or pay for premium and don't worry about energy
This. Even ignoring the fact of how expensive the AI is to maintain, there is also the fact of how Ads barely make revenue to make a significant impact.
Add a bunch of ads in the game to help the developers to raise more money to continue this amazing project called AI Dungeon.
Ads are not going to get Latitude enough money.Plus, adblockers.
In one of the streams, the devs said something like it would take over 50,000 ads to cover the cost of a single line generated.
i talked to the devs before and they wouldnt even make ads alone let alone ads for premium. Its not worth it since it has a tiny profit appearently
"Make the Premium free...BUT..." (suggested by ME on 2020-09-25), including upvotes (82) and comments (8), was merged into this suggestion.
"Ads instead of energy bar" (suggested by A solution on 2020-11-08), including upvotes (198) and comments (13), was merged into this suggestion.
"Watch Ads to earn some scales." (suggested by Brook on 2021-01-06), including upvotes (1) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.
"Watch ads to unlock new profile pictures" (suggested by Remi Tiras on 2020-11-09), including upvotes (3) and comments (2), was merged into this suggestion.
"Watching ads to fill the energy bar up" (suggested by Remi Tiras on 2020-11-06), including upvotes (129) and comments (14), was merged into this suggestion.
"Put in ads and cash donations instead of energy" (suggested by Mathias Allen on 2021-01-05), including upvotes (1) and comments (2), was merged into this suggestion.
"Buying premium from ads" (suggested by Bahri on 2020-07-14), including upvotes (267) and comments (24), was merged into this suggestion.
"Add a bunch of ads" (suggested by Adalberto on 2021-01-05), including upvotes (2) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.
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