Character Editor

Comments: 98

• 17 Jan
  theParadox42

  Is this possible? It would take a great deal of work, especially recognizing what characters are, attributes related to characters, making sure 2 characters don’t become one, and recognizing when characters die. This by no means is a bad suggestion, just one that seems to take a great deal of effort to implement.

• 17 Jan
  ShichiNoBushi

  If the AI creates an internal database of characters or other details, I would like to be able to look at it to know what it's thinking and possibly edit it to make it more coherent. Something that would be helpful for that is while viewing a character entry, click a button to cycle through entries where that character is supposed to be referenced from first to most recent.

• 17 Jan
  Moderator Admin

  This might make more sense as something you can do with the "/remember" command. At least in the near term.

• 17 Jan
  JaceEthaniel

  AI Dungeon is really just advanced text prediction software. Adding in static "characters" that you can force the AI to take into account is significantly more difficult than anyone seems to be understanding. It doesn't KNOW anything, it just pulls from training data to see how often what words appear next to other words and then tries to continue/complete/repeat the pattern you give it as input. Even if they eventually decide to try something like this, it will take a very long time.

• 21 Jan
  Madeline

  Honestly, something like /remember but for "Characters" would be interesting, maybe allow you to keep storage of characters like for prompts and stories so that if you by chance reference them, the AI can recognize who that is exactly (depending on how much detail you put into it). Think of it like /remember but longterm storage.

• 23 Jan
  Zechariah

  Grate detail on you explanation Madeline I think that would be awesome to have as a character reference for multiple games and have them know one and another in other games and to also have the AI use them for additional data and npc's in game

• 27 Jan
  Tiamat4

  Seems like the problem is that the AI gives the most weight to the most recent events, so stuff in the intro prompt, /remember blurbs, and anything else probably can't have much effect, unless there's a good way to secretly slip data to the AI between prompts.

• 27 Jan
  ShichiNoBushi

  A database of characters for use within multiple stories would be good for "long-term" stories that need to be restarted as new stories to continue once the previous one gets too long for the AI to continue reliably.

• 28 Jan
  Jake

  I desperately hope this could be possible.
  
  I will double my monthly donations, please lawd please

• 17 Feb
  Neko_ŒwŒ

  Maybe have it build a character database using character profiles in the creator studio (starting of with maybe 4 profiles (character description in 400 characters ).
  
  Not sure how dwarves dungeon or how it is called did it but it could remember up to 80 character names and states and that was basically a text based dungeon crawler

• 17 Feb
  Acmer

  A personal character cache where you could choose characters that appear in the story. When the AI generates new stuff, it could pull parts of data from that cache.

• 04 Mar
  Christinewho

  Acmer, some people like to clean their cache once in a while and I 'm one of those. I do like the ide of character editor, but not in the cache.

• 05 Mar
  Black Alpha

  To be honest, it would be a lot easier than adding tons of information in the /remember . This way the AI would have an idea about who is the center of the action

• 08 Mar
  Corolla Johnson

  You've got to remember that GPT-2 is essentially a text completer and has no symbolic logic. That being said, based on a very very light skimming of the GPT-2 lit, it might be possible to jury rig the self attention layer to directly associate a noun/pronoun with a short bio.
  
  A simpler idea would be to replace the character's name (or pronoun as detected by self-attention) with their bio, or slip the bio in edgewise when either is detected in the past 5 paragraphs or so.

• 10 Mar
  10k Merged

  An area to add character and npc profiles to one of your stories. So we can add certain information about our characters, npcs, and races. This way the ai will be able to keep up with our characters name, age, hight, gender, weapons, class/occupation, relationships, weapons, description, race, and any other information that might be important to that character alone.
  For NPCs we could do the same but also add personality so their personal can be consistent.
  For races it could have life spa

• 16 Mar
  TheSongReaper

  If you could somehow make the character editor a spreadsheet that is easily editable where everything can be added or deleted and labeled. when its labeled the AI in the game finds the definition for the word and when its needed the AI implants it into the adventure.

• 16 Mar
  TheSongReaper

  also be able to add nicknames and descriptions to the spreadsheet.

• 18 Mar
  throwawayexperimentation

  What about a second AI that has access to the length of the story, and has been trained to detect characters in the text and can bypass the 10-action memory limit by adding special 'emphasis' labels (with unique IDs) to certain areas of the data where characters are defined (these labels wouldn't be in the text itself, but 'indexes'; much like how data is accessed by indexes in an array)? One may also use 'remember', and could then have the ability to place custom-weighted labels in the context.

• 21 Mar
  ForgetfulFool

  Being able to make characters before or during a story that you can reuse in other stories would be quite useful. Maybe we can set up bios and descriptions for a character so the AI recognizes a few things without needing to rely on /remember. Like if they were a kid, from mars, whether they're undead or not. Maybe even the ability to either has a character's text be in a specific color.
  
  (Just spitballing here.)

• 22 Mar
  throwawayexperimentation

  If this secondary AI can directly modify the attention layer to focus on characters when it recognises that a character is present, maybe even can 'alter' the model's 'memory' of the character whenever character development occurs, then maybe could this be possible?

• 25 Mar
  Greg

  Naive way to do this is to weight remembered items:
  1) User provides bios/things to be remembered (call this set M). Each element in M is a GPT2 vector embedding of the memorized text.
  2) Current context is embedded by GPT2 to vector and inner product taken with each vector in M.
  3) Softmax the inner products, generate a probability distribution, sample from it.
  4) New context = concatenated sampled vecs
  User should be able to set priors on sampled vecs. Issues w/this of course but it's a start.

• 15 Apr
  Rimuru Tempest

  The ai does need improvements to the amount of races it can understands
  Especially when it comes to races that don't really appear in western fantasy that do in eastern fantasy.

• 16 Apr
  Tom Mc. Nugget

  this would be great, for example, lets say you are a dwarf. sometimes, the game ignores that, even if its in remember. so this would be great so that it could force the AI to remember that, and not say you are a 50 feet cyclops.

• 17 Apr
  Helstiir

  I can get behind this pretty easily.

• 28 Apr
  Anakoly

  This is going to be cool i suggest, its great when the AI really remembers anything about the character itself, occupation... and many more i suppose.

• 03 May
  Thehail

  This would be good for an economy system or so.

• 08 May
  ProbablySomeone

  There needs to be something added to the remember function. Currently, in my experience, the AI confuses multiple characters defined in remember - or just completely ignores anything about a character/event/etc. Or even more confusingly completely flip flop in a sentence.
  
  Character sheets would be neat but even just some syntax to make remember "blocks" could work? Like put {} around each part describing one person/place/etc?

• 11 May
  Show Box

  Would be cool if you could share your characters online so people could put them in their own game.

• 13 May
  Yessums

  Actually, this will prob be made into a premium feature. I would like this to be an exception, if they can.

• 19 May
  Devon Admin

  "Options for multiple, set characters (Read desc.)" (suggested by Yessums on 2020-05-13), including upvotes (2) and comments (2), was merged into this suggestion.

• 19 May
  Devon Admin

  "Add a character menu." (suggested by Zenkai on 2020-05-13), including upvotes (2) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 20 May
  Devon Admin

  "Character/npc profiles" (suggested by 10k on 2020-03-10), including upvotes (8) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 20 May
  Devon Admin

  "Make an additional option to add characters and their backstorys." (suggested by Jammy. on 2020-02-03), including upvotes (3) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 25 May
  David Admin

  This is something we can't wait to add. There are large hurdles with the way the AI model works that we are working to overcome to make this possible. For now the best you can do is use the remember function.

• 01 Jun
  UrBoi

  Another helpful feature that would help with situations concerning characters is a /Party command: https://aidungeon.featureupvote.com/suggestions/91485/party-command

• 03 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "Character memory improvement suggestion!" (suggested by Marian on 2020-06-03), including upvotes (2) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 03 Jun
  Devon Admin

  From:Marian Maybe adding a character section similar to the World Info but available while playing, so you can define characters you meet mid-game, that would also remove some of the clutter in the memory section MAYBE making it more consistent as well (I really don't know much about this stuff).

• 04 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "add a feather were the ai records character names and it doesn't confuse you with a other character" (suggested by Garf on 2020-06-04), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 05 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "A list for a character's abilities." (suggested by JustANobody on 2020-06-04), including upvotes (2) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 05 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "Inventory/Character Sheet" (suggested by Ian on 2020-02-21), including upvotes (3) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 05 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "The ability to define objects or people and change it" (suggested by Game fan on 2020-04-29), including upvotes (14) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 05 Jun
  Ricardo

  It sounds like a great idea!!! it would also be cool if you can also do this with scenarios like World Info maybe calling it character Info like what Devon said being able to do this while you play but maybe also having it be availably when making scenarios.

• 08 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "Characters Information System" (suggested by Wander on 2020-06-08), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 09 Jun
  Ceark

  Function "Change the character, from the second person of which the narration is being conducted." When the main character is sleeping / dying / is too far from the new character, the User switches the character on behalf of whom it says "You ...". Implies a panel of characters.
  Is it possible?

• 10 Jun
  ItsTheGlitch

  An interesting addition to the character sheet maybe character limitations. This could be a list of limits for the character that could be auto-generated by the AI over the course of the game and then saved to that species for other quests or side characters that appear. For instance, if your character is a tree. You cannot move (unless maybe in the wind.) You cannot speak (since you have no mouth.) You cannot attack, etc. But the tree can think or dream at is open since the tree is a player.

• 10 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "Character bios" (suggested by No name given on 2020-06-10), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 17 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "Charecter" (suggested by Thatoneguy on 2020-06-16), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 20 Jun
  Yessums

  It'll be great for the franchise-specific scenarios, having the ability to detail a set pre-made character. [ i just want realistic jojo :) ]

• 23 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "A menu for people you have met in the game" (suggested by Lukasthewookuspookus on 2020-06-23), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 25 Jun
  Touchmaster

  I would LOVE a feature like this, being able to have the AI play fictional characters much more accurately, especially if the info is stored in some sort of database to make it even easier... as long as no one messes with it.

• 25 Jun
  Allan

  GPT-2 is a text completer. To really create a game or a history teller, you should create an agent. I think the best would be a RL agent responsible for orquestrating the story/game using GPT-2 as a tool. The agent should be able to correct inconsistencies, keep track of pace, characters, locations and feed in another head on the multiheaded attention layer. The best would be a model based PPO agent with MCTS for planning ahead and an attention based inconsistency detector. Very hard to train.

• 25 Jun
  throwawayexperimentation

  http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/
  I think some tests could be run on the AI to determine, by marking where character descriptions start and end, what neurons statistically fire more when describing/reading characters, and then more data can be found by figuring out what neurons fire statistically more when describing a character's personality, appearance, et cetera. The interface can then 'copy' whatever data the AI is currently reading into labeled sections.

• 28 Jun
  Varkarrus Merged

  This is a planned feature, and also can kinda be done before starting by using world details, or after starting by using pinned memory.

• 29 Jun
  Devon Admin

  "List of characters and personalities" (suggested by Esile on 2020-06-28), including upvotes (1) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 05 Jul
  Mike

  That'd be great to have as a function. You wouldn't have to type out which character does specifically, or tell the AI that there's a difference in the man wearing a hat and the one that's not. For now though, the remember function does this ok. It's not perfect, but at least it helps it keep track of who's what.

• 22 Jul
  allan

  This seems to be a relatively easy feat with GPT-3. I was playing with GPT-3 and if you explain the prompt to track if there is any new character in the scene using as context the characters that already are saved, it normally have a very goo score at that.

• 22 Jul
  Guedez

  Since this is planned,how far it will go and how it will work?
  I feel that the AI consistently lose track of character's characteristics, but at the same time can figure out that something changed.
  For instance, the AI can keep track that if a character drinks some sort of berserker potion and grows larger, it will figure out that it is no longer 1,7 meters tall and now 1,8 (although it randomly decides how big is the increase). Will it be able to handle other characteristics like STR for lvups?

• 22 Jul
  SG

  I agree, it would be really nice if the AI could remember specific character details, even regarding the player character, such as family relationships and physical appearance, even species. I just hate it when I specify my character is an android and then several minutes later the AI says I'm a human.

• 28 Jul
  Ditb3

  If possible, I would like to let users share their characters in the “explore” part.And they can put the characters into other scenarios.This will be fun.

• 29 Jul
  Devon Admin

  "When a character is generated the site creates a file with its personality and memory" (suggested by NyanKujo on 2020-07-29), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 31 Jul
  Fuzzball

  Yes it would be nice to have a more straight to the point way of specifying what each character is like. Also maybe a way to differentiate things that are meant to be said out loud and things that are more of a subconscious/private. Like if I say that someone has low self esteem, I don't want them to actually greet me by saying "hi, I have low self esteem" but rather just act on it.. it seems to give different results based on how I describe it and how lucky I am really.

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  Would it not be good if you had a tab next to the pin or redo button that has the shape of a character?
  
  That way you can press it and it will open something comparable to the quest window, but in there you can see the characters that were made or that you made.
  
  Maybe make it an excel like type, with rows for every different variable like height, gender, breast size (NSFW), and others, with columns for the names of the characters.

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  You might even add a table, and make the same for kingdoms, or organisations. I think that option could be like a plus near the character tab, like tab 1 is character, and then you have a plus where you can put in your custom tab or select a pre made tab like kingdoms, nations, worlds...
  
  Hmm... Now that I think about it... I think it is better to implement the edit in the configure adventure window.
  
  With rows for what they stand for, who they serve, what type of members they have.

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  That way when you press the character button you only can view the entries, characters and organizations, and in the configure you can edit them. That way you keep the configuration part and the view part separate, and if you are in multiplayer only the game master can edit the fields and variables, while clients can mention names and so on.
  
  Maybe even make that the game master can accept the creation of the entity, or ignore it. Even maybe give a client a mute on creating entities?

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  That way you could prevent trolling, or overfilling of characters, organisations and so on, and in the same time making it a more modular system that does not exist for the sole purpose of character remembrance and editing.
  
  BTW awesome game, I love the NSFW aspects, and the ability to create my own stories!

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  And I love the Idea of Fuzzball, implementing private or hidden attributes, so that the given entity does not greet you and immediately say hey I have this and that.

• 31 Jul
  Daniel

  The hidden attribute could even be just a bool, that a player can check in the editor? The problem then would be, would you want every single field of any given entity to be separately changeable? Or complete fields like personality, fetish, trauma, belief, hatred towards etc.?

• 02 Aug
  throwawayexperimentation

  May I ask if this feature is going to be an actual modification to the AI to 'intercept' character recognition?

• 02 Aug
  75897

  I think a profile page for each character would be nice. It should list their natures and their appearance or something?

• 06 Aug
  Devon Admin

  "Characters" (suggested by Samuel sidener on 2020-08-06), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 08 Aug
  Czah

  I have been playing with multiple character layouts using the /remember function (4 companions + main) with surprisingly good results. With a couple of nudges here and there it has done well remembering traits such as sex/weapon/class/personality quirks (ie clever, fiery, virtuous, etc). After some tweaking, I was even able to get it to consistently involve all four by name by nudging the term "all companions". Very impressive even though I inadvertently shattered the 1000 char limit... xd

• 13 Aug
  Devon Admin

  "Character description" (suggested by Anthony on 2020-08-12), including upvotes (2) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 15 Aug
  Allan

  GPT-3 is a general purpose text completer. I'm sure it's fairly easy to do this. You just need to use GPT-3 (a different call to it, with a prompt for identifying characters) and it would work. For example:
  
  Text: Bob picked the sword and killed himself. Eliza screamed.
  Characters: Bob (dead), Eliza (alive)
  
  Around 10-20 examples may be enough to it understand the task.

• 16 Aug
  Fuguer

  This is a great idea and it’s really just a more modular way of injecting content into adventures. E.g. If this is represented as key/value pairs in world info you could grab a few major concepts and add them to your story.

• 18 Aug
  Owlbear Merged

  Oh, and it could also stop that problem of people regrowing limbs at random because the AI forgot that someone lost their arms.
  Lots of potential utility really.

• 18 Aug
  Owlbear Merged

  I mean, its similar to the character editor suggestion I suppose, but this is sort of CE lite more focused on it having a higher priority remember type thing. I think it's lightweight enough in comparison as well as different enough not to be merged, but if it gets merged in with the character editor suggestion though I'd see the logic.

• 19 Aug
  Devon Admin

  "Addition of Character Bios" (suggested by Owlbear on 2020-08-18), including upvotes (2) and comments (2), was merged into this suggestion.

• 21 Aug
  Fronk

  Just adding my voice. Do it.

• 22 Aug
  Utsuho

  I think this would be a wonderful feature. Sometimes the performance of current "remember" function is not satisfactory. It would be great to have a more constrained property list for characters.

• 25 Aug
  Devon Admin

  "Implement a way to make an auto-generated world info section for newly introduced characters" (suggested by James on 2020-08-25), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 27 Aug
  Devon Admin

  "Characters in multiplayer" (suggested by Bob on 2020-08-27), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 03 Sep
  Devon Admin

  "assessment of what is happening" (suggested by Woo on 2020-09-03), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 04 Sep
  cocoyoc

  isn't this what World Info is for?

• 05 Sep
  Andrew Ramsey

  This would definitely be a great addition to the site and app because it will help put some worrywarts ambitions to rest.

• 07 Sep
  throwawayexperimentation

  https://bonkerfield.org/2020/02/combining-gpt-2-and-bert/ Could use a discriminator AI to choose what sentence best fits a character given a response.

• 09 Sep
  Pathless

  Using world info as a basis and just adding a tab system to it, so you have separate tabs for characters, items and actual info about the world would be a great way of doing this and make it a lot easier to find what you are looking for as well instead of just scrolling trough a long list of mixed info.

• 13 Sep
  nobodycareswhoiam Merged

  Perhaps a list of all characters that have appeared so far and you can assign up to 3 adjectives to each.
  
  When the AI writes about this character, it briefly checks these adjectives and tries to let the character act that way, or at least so that the behavior does not conflict with these adjectives.
  
  For example:
  Marvin the Wizard: proud, devious, arrogant
  Wendy: happy, friendly

• 13 Sep
  Devon Admin

  "Personality" (suggested by Adrez on 2020-09-12), including upvotes (3) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.

• 14 Sep
  b_de

  This one feature will elevate this game to a whole new level. I wish you developers luck in figuring this feature out.

• 21 Sep
  Devon Admin

  "the AI should remember character descriptions better." (suggested by Hellolol on 2020-09-21), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 24 Sep
  Denis Burmyshev

  Template of character:
  
  Name:
  Fandom:
  Date of birth:
  Place of birth:
  Age:
  Gender:
  Race:
  Nationality:
  Occupation:
  Affiliation:
  Appearance:
  Personality:
  History:
  Relationship:
  Abilities:

• 26 Sep
  Devon Admin

  "Character" (suggested by MarkoPolo on 2020-09-26), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 29 Sep
  Devon Admin

  "Character Profiles" (suggested by MagicianoftheSoul on 2020-09-29), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.

• 29 Sep
  BlueBurn

  I just came here to suggest something like this. It would elevate this game to have separate characters tracked as discrete entities. I think having a separate /Remember for each character would be a very good start. I have already had a lot of success by focusing on one character in the /Remember section of a scenario, so I think it's the most vital feature for a character profile. Having some additional fields to give the AI some more concrete information would be very good too.

• 30 Sep
  Jetboost

  In the same way how it is suggested to store character information I'd also like the AI to store and remember location, race and map layout information while keeping in mind the (when defined) the culture and common sense for that location.
  small Example: you define in world info "keys: Village, NameOfVillage. NameOfVillage is a village located in.... and the village is known for the temple of power.
  Keys: Temple, Temple of power. Explanation temple of power".
  
  Reached char limit.

• 30 Sep
  Jetboost

  Continuation.
  
  It would be nice if it would thus remember everything related to the village and based on known information generates a map-layout.
  
  What I would hope that this would accomplish is that a story that is more in line with the setting you are going for is being generated and that there would thus be less contradictions being generated, and that your character doesn't suddenly, unreasonably appear in some strange place.
  
  If I am being unclear I am willing to try and better clarify it.

• 13 Oct
  Torry

  Not sure if this has been asked before. The ability to manually attach a small avatar/image to each pre-made character so that the character's avatar appears next to their dialog or action. For example:
  <avatar> You swing your axe at <avatar> Carl.
  "Watch out, Carl!" shouts <avatar> Lenny.
  I have a terrible memory for names so this would really help me keep track of the characters. The ability to manually add an avatar to an ai generated character would also be great. Thank you for considering!

• 2 days ago
  NihilEsk

  Honestly would be a lifesaver, especially since I like making scenarios of mt characters and races. Which aren't always easily remembered by the ai. I tend to have to fill the entire remember field to get my character sometimes correct, and even then it tends to make mistakes at times.